A Rare Phenomenon

Posted by Member Metta on 2/17/13 12:11 PM #1
Posts: 411

Just noticed that I am pretty close to completing this achievement. You have to find/kill all of these guys as rares. Here are the ones I'm missing:

Dust Imp: Never seen these as rares. Definitely killed tons of dessicated imps, but I don't know where these guys are as rares.
Sand Dweller: Pretty sure I've killed these guys in Desolate Sands many times as rares, but for some reason it didn't check.
Skeletal Raider: Not sure

Skeletal Marauder: I'm pretty sure I've killed thousands of these things in Act 3, but I don't know if they're bugged cause I don't think I've ever found them as rares.
Skull Cleaver: Same thing

Armaddon: I know where this one is, just need to farm Act 4 for them

Anyone completed this? Would be sad if it was yet another bugged achievement...
Posted by Member ninjax on 2/17/13 12:44 PM #2
Posts: 600

I actually just started to look at these yesterday and have pretty much the same ones missing as you.

Dust Imps are found in the Zultan Kule waypoint in the dungeon's off there. I only did a few runs but only had them spawn as champs not rares. Doh.

Check out diablo wiki for locations.

Let me know if you manage to do it, I'm sure I've killed skull cleaves in keeps2 but not god the reward :l

For Armaddon's make sure you explore the dungeons off the the Gardens of Hope as that's where I found them.

Let me know how you go, I'd like this reward too!
Posted by Member Bort on 2/17/13 09:02 PM #3
Posts: 551

The ones you have listed are all mobs spawning in areas people don't typically go to more than once.
Or they were bugged at some point. Everything is fixed now. I finally finished the achievement last week after 1.07 hit.

Dust Imp - The Ruins Lvl2
Sand Dweller - Forgotten Ruins (Didn't spawn prior to 1.07)
Skeletal Raider - Storm Halls (Not certain about this one, need to double check my info at home)
Skeletal Marauder - Battlefield Stores
Skull Cleaver - Battlefield Stores
Armaddon - Gardens of Hope

If you don't know where these areas are check out the Area flowcharts I have in the guides section.



Unfortunately a lot of people put up incorrect guides. They simply look at where the normal monsters spawn and claim that you get the Rares and Elites in the same area. This is NOT CORRECT. This is also why you remember killing them as normal mobs, but not as Rares. The Rare versions of some mobs only spawn in a very specific dungeon.

If I get some time I might do a proper guide, cause all the incorrect info out there is just annoying. I think I will do this once I hit my 100Mil gold pickup, cause then all my achievements are finished.
Posted by Member Bort on 2/17/13 09:19 PM #4
Posts: 551

On a side note.... the HC version of the Rare one had Rare Rockworms in the list. These mobs doesn't exist.
In 1.07 blizz removed them from the list... BUT now I have everything checked off on my HC list and no achievement.

Posted by Member Metta on 2/18/13 12:33 AM #5
Posts: 411

@bort

Thanks. I probably would never have found those. I'll probably work some of those places in just so I can finish that achievement.

I'm also trying to finish the Champion's Collection if you have time :):

Fallen Cur: Are those dogs? Never seen them.
Deathly Haunt: No idea.
Skeletal Raider: Same place as rares, I'm guessing.

Skeletal Marauder: Same
Skull Cleaver: Same
Plague Swarm: Desolate Sands?

Mallet Lord: Yeah, I think I know this one.
Posted by Member ninjax on 2/18/13 01:33 AM #6
Posts: 600

I now only need 3, just killed Skull Cleavers in Battlefield Stores.
Sorry @Metta I tried to add friend you in game but your profile link here is broken.

Rare Collection I need:
Dust Imp - The Ruins Lvl2
Cave Wing - not sure?
Skull Sword - battlefield stores?

Champ collection I need:
Fallen Cur: see below
Plague Swarm: see below however I just ran them, dungeon was tiny and nothing plague swarm like spotted!

EDIT:
From patch notes:
Bug Fixes
Rare Sand Dwellers will now spawn in The Forgotten Ruins
Champion Plague Swarms will now spawn in Cryder's Outpost
Champion Fallen Cur will now spawn in The Storm Halls


Posted by Member ninjax on 2/18/13 05:51 AM #7
Posts: 600

Had battlefield stores spawn several times without luck getting Skull Sword. Really annoying as I hate the dungeon, it has so many dead ends and it's a long way to run back to make sure you've checked everywhere!
Posted by Member Bort on 2/18/13 12:56 PM #8
Posts: 551

@Metta

Fallen Cur - Storm Halls (Since 1.07 As ninjax pointed out)
Deathly Haunt - Mysterious Cave (Same as the pony staff rainbow, so might be a pain to get)
Skeletal Raider Champ - Have them as Storm Halls, Unknown Depths and Vault of the Assassin
Skeletal Marauder - Champ and Elite in Battlefield Stores
Skull Cleaver - Champ and Elite in Battlefield Stores
Plague Swarm - Cryder's Outpost (Since 1.07 As ninjax pointed out)

@ninjax
Cave Wing - Sirocco Caverns
Skull Sword - Battlefield Stores yes

It took me about 20 battlefield reloads (of which about 4 or 5 were Cryder's outpost) to get the Plague Swarm.



Hoooray for ADD... I had everything still written down in an excell sheet.
But I have started taking some Rare and Elite screenshots tonight so I can make a proper 1.07 guide.
Posted by Member ninjax on 2/18/13 01:44 PM #9
Posts: 600

Thanks so much @Bort! Saved me many runs I'm sure.
Posted by Member Bort on 2/18/13 08:48 PM #10
Posts: 551

hehe, I just hope my info is right. :)

Posted by Member ninjax on 2/19/13 05:04 AM #11
Posts: 600

Well so far so good, I got Skull Swords finally last night in Battlefield Stores. I'll screen grab the remaining 4 I have when I find them for you.

I'm going to start on some of the other achievements after this.. it'd be easier to do with other people helping & inviting when they've found a requirement. I wonder if we can start a group on here on D3RMT for interested people although I do play at odd hours compared to ya'll.
Posted by Member Metta on 2/20/13 12:21 AM #12
Posts: 411

Here's what I have left:

Rares:
Sand Dweller
Armaddon

I'm having trouble finding the rare sand dwellers in the Forgotten Ruins. I've done about 8-9 runs so far.

Champ:
Deathly Haunt
Plague Swarm

Edit: Just hit Battlefield Stores after about 6 tries. Got 2 champs and 2 rares in one run!
Posted by Member ninjax on 2/20/13 12:34 AM #13
Posts: 600

http://i.imgur.com/N1cLqm9.jpg?1

:)
Posted by Member Metta on 2/20/13 12:54 AM #14
Posts: 411

@ninjax nice dude
Posted by Member ninjax on 2/20/13 01:34 AM #15
Posts: 600

Thanks! I just need Plague Swarm for the champ achievement.. and then.. ?

I'm not sure if I can manage A Unique Collection. I'd say I only have about 1/5 of them.

EDIT: Got em finally!

http://i.imgur.com/XkqbaPC.jpg?1

@Bort - Screengrab of Plague Swarm here:
http://i.imgur.com/RMecTg8.jpg
Posted by Member Metta on 2/20/13 12:27 PM #16
Posts: 411

I can't seem to find the rare sand dweller. I've done about 10-12 runs of Forgotten Ruins. Can anyone confirm that they spawn there? I just keep seeing the same packs over and over again.

Apparently, it's not the one that spawns in Desolate Sands. They usually spawn rare with a bunch of dessicated imps, but I guess that one doesn't count.

Edit: Wow, the Plague Swarm one is horrible. Cryder's Outpost seems to be a relatively rare spawn. On top of that, the dungeon is really tiny. I went in there, thinking I was going to check off the Plague Swarm, and I didn't even find any elites! Just found a pack of regular white plague swarm.
Posted by Member ninjax on 2/20/13 12:58 PM #17
Posts: 600

@Metta They spawn there. I was lucky and had them on my first try. They are big rock guys who come out of the ground.

I did about 30+ runs of Battlefield for Plague Swarm so know how you feel :) The annoying thing is the odd time they spawned as a pack they kept being rare!
Posted by Member Bort on 2/20/13 09:03 PM #18
Posts: 551

Posted by Metta at 02/20/2013 12:21 AM

Edit: Just hit Battlefield Stores after about 6 tries. Got 2 champs and 2 rares in one run!


Yip, I got a bunch of ticks in one run there too.
Cryders outpost only has 1 rare/elite, so once you get any rare/elite if it isn't what you are looking for it's time for a reload. And when I did it I got Cryders outpost about 1 in 5 times of reloading.

I had to do about 20 Forgotten Ruins runs to get the Sand Dweller, so just keep going.

@ninjax Uniques are far more time consuming to get than rares/elites.
20 runs is a lot to get a rare/elite.
Some of the uniques took me well over 300 runs of the same area to get.
But there is good news (at least, I hope there is). On the EU server forums, under quest section, there are a lot of people posting lists with their missing uniques, and offering a bounty. So whenever anyone finds a unique they go to the lists and contact other people who also need them. So check out the US servers, I'm sure there should be something similar there.

(Thx for the screenshot)
Posted by Member Metta on 2/21/13 01:38 AM #19
Posts: 411

Yay I found the sand dweller. Really weird how it appears so infrequently...

Reminds me of trying to find Doom Gaze in FFVI.

Edit: DONE!!!

http://i.imgur.com/aMr4m0P.jpg

Posted by Member ninjax on 2/21/13 02:24 AM #20
Posts: 600

Woot! Congrats!! It almost looks like a legendary beam top right too ;)

Thanks @Bort Yup there is on US forum as well. Issue for me is I live in UK and play on US so most people are offline. They've set up "groups" to hunt them. Maybe I'll add my name to the list and see how we go.

Might try and get some of the easier challenges I've not done. Bosses Naked, Punch Diablo & Follower last hit.
Posted by Member Metta on 2/21/13 11:21 AM #21
Posts: 411

@ninjax heh yeah, it was a legendary that actually dropped off the final rare (armaddon). Too bad it was a crappy Warmonger.

The two champs I have left, deathly haunt and plague swarm, are pretty annoying though. Both are located in areas that don't spawn every game and on top of that, both are spawns that don't always appear in the dungeon.

Still haven't finished Wheel of Misfortune, which is another nightmare. Missing two of them; one is the Fowl Lair, but the other one I have no idea and I can't remember.

So assuming it's a 1 out of 5 chance for the damn wheel to even spawn, it's like 1 out of 50 to get the right one :/.
Posted by Member ecocd on 2/21/13 12:14 PM #22
Posts: 1059

@Metta 1 in 50? In Diablo 3 we tend to call that "fairly likely." ;-)

I, too, have given up on ever finishing the Wheel of Misfortune. I think the only people that finish those are people that work in teams of 4 and run Desolate Sands endlessly on MP1 or even lower level of difficulty maximizing movement speed. When someone finds one, all 4 players jump into that game. Instead of seeing a wheel 1 in 5 runs, you essentially have 4 chances to see a Wheel in each run. That works out to about a 60% chance of seeing a Wheel in one of the four games. Even at 60%, you're only going to see the one you need 1 in 10 times so still a paltry 6% chance in each run. It's better than 2% and it also will end up taking less time per run, on average to find the Wheel.

That's also the best way to farm Spectrums and Hamburgers in Whimsyshire off the Purples that appear frustratingly rarely.
Posted by Member Bort on 2/21/13 12:38 PM #23
Posts: 551

Took me 2 entire weekends to do the stupid wheel of misfurtune.
Was 9/10 in like 2 hours, and then what felt like another million tries later I got the 10th.

*all in all i have spent way way too much time hunting achievements instead of legendaries. :)
Posted by Member nuhertz on 2/21/13 12:57 PM #24
Posts: 512

It's definitely a frustrating one. I probably spent 2-3 hours running it.

Posted by Member Metta on 2/21/13 11:19 PM #25
Posts: 411

Update:

Hit Cryder's FOUR more times (got pretty lucky hitting it 3 times in a row) and no plague swarm. Is this one of those "1 in 20 chance" of spawning packs? Pretty annoying...

Finally found the Mysterious Cave again after about 12 more runs. Found a RARE deathly haunt pack. WTF? Why is there a rare pack? There's no requirement for the rare pack for achievements! Did they just randomly pick rares and champs? There's no logic to it (some appear on one, some appear on none, some appear on both) *facepalm*.

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