@baldy @euggie @NightCrawler9

I'm not sure what happened tonight. I just feel abused and probed.

With no lube and a 5 inch head, width that is...

The answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything... ^

lol... we def got pwn'd... sorry for all the DC and lagging
man all that effort for 1 stupid organ

3 CM WZ and a monk, MP10 I assume? It's hard to believe you guys had trouble given all the good players in the group. Which fight was the toughest or did you get stuck on one?

We had Magdha and SK first. We died a lot at first but we eventually beat them. When we beat them we had like one minute left of NV and didn't kill a rare pack until like 2 seconds after the NV ran out haha. If Khan's gear didn't break I think we could have had enough time to kill that rare pack, reset stacks and kill the other two ubers.

It was a terrible night...First time I actually ran around naked during an MP10 uber fight due to broken gear.

Do you think it would be a good strategy to have the lowest DPS CM WZ focus on Magdha, while the other 3 down SK? There shouldn't be nearly as many bugs or arcane sentries, and SK might go down before she even shields at 3/4 life. There's also the fact that if you manage to keep freezing her, she won't put up the shield so you can keep her from attacking a lot even if you're not hurting her.

I think it was a problem with us CM's attack speed. After awhile I think we all switch to our higher attack speed items which made it easier to freeze them. I also think it was a bad idea for us to have been sticking them in a corner of the map because Maghda would spawn her arcane beams under us so we'd have to move away from them or die, which would cause us to stop freezing them, which would make SK do his strut and wipe us all haha.

No Barbs in the party? Well, duh... No wonder... Haha! I can see the vein in Khan's forhead now. Just messin guys. Like @sabin said, I'm suprised you guys didn't take them all down. Sometimes we all have bad nights. I have no doubt that the group of players listed can get it done.

Given that I've only run Ubers twice, how much damage are the CM's responsible for? A DH tricked out for Thunderball Bola Shot could probably sub in for a 3rd CM wizard and still pump out a steady stream consistent damage with 3 Sentries firing.

@yoyo I love having a barb in the party - warcry pushes my WZ over 7.2k arm & 1.2k AR and it's super noticeable. That said, on MP10 either the group needs to have really great eHP to survive with only 2 CM WZ, or the barb needs to have great DPS to make up for a lack of overawe. I think your barb would do well, I'm just saying the monk requirements aren't as strict since a huge amount of DPS is from the mantra.

A DH could also work, but would need really high DPS to synergize well with this kinda group (and not kill themselves on SB). A WD might also do well with BBV, bad medicine, and bears.

Barb or DH would have helped. I think it was an issue of positioning and underestimation of the situation. I know I didn't put on a couple of badass pieces of gear till the end and we finally figured out that if one of us keeps mag frozen/preoccupied, the other three and can go bukkake on SK. That strategy is eventually what beat them out. I had magda duty and every once in a while two unseen cloud of butterflies would slam into me. Unfortunately, my gear couldn't last the constant (I think it was 5 deaths) resurrections.

CM's don't really deal that much damage. 110k dps to 150k dps. The constant freezing/explosive blast/WW/diamond shards/lightning does wear down an uber and once a monster is locked, like Rakanoth/Ghom, the damage is just constant. For reference, the last time I did MP10 Azmodan solo, it took about 7 minutes. That was a few weeks ago. Might be quicker now.

@Khan so if my googling is correct, MP10 Azmo has 138,425,408 HP / 420 seconds = ~330k effective DPS on a (large) single target, though I assume you had a follower adding to that somewhat. Multiple targets of course will increase the DPS as your CDs refresh quicker, not to mention the fact that all the attacks are AoE.

@ecocd depending on how well you can freeze, you might use the bone chill rune for 15% more team DPS, and time warp for 20% more. With the ubers almost always frozen, it's on average over 30% total, so you're almost as good as an overawe monk (but I don't know how these stack with other CM WZ using the same).

@sabin Yeah, Scoundrel for additional CC and trying to get additional freeze with that Burizadoowopkyotoprotocol crossbow. Not bad. But definitely could be better.

@sabin im not elite but I can hold my own in mp10. :) Any time you want to get a group together and try it out I'm game. The point of my post was that the guys who where trying to do it are more than capable.

It's always been my belief that 2 good CM wizards and 2 high dps classes of any flavor can do the mp10 run most efficiently.

yea i think i just suck and thats why

@yoyo I know, I was just throwin' out some theory!

@euggie but you got rid of your stupid knockback bracers and the rare shoulders! What more could you need?

@sabin From one New Englander to another, your theory is wicked good. :)

@euggie As long as you don't swallow I suppose I can still respect you... ;) I was just looking at your profile and it looked as if you were trying to play CM with Archon gear? No apoc? This has to be a weird blizz logout thing. lol

Posted by yoyo at 12/06/2012 07:12 PM

@sabin From one New Englander to another, your theory is wicked good. :)

@euggie As long as you don't swallow I suppose I can still respect you... ;) I was just looking at your profile and it looked as if you were trying to play CM with Archon gear? No apoc? This has to be a weird blizz logout thing. lol

lol no no i switched back to archon farming :/ gotta get more keys to die to some more mp10 ubers!
5 runs no legendaries... but i got 2 act3 keys and 1 from act2

For some reason, I can never get that A2 key.

Posted by shniggies at 12/06/2012 07:23 PM

but i got 2 act3 keys and 1 from act2

Since when is this allowed to happen to you??

You were fine last night @euggie.

I'm honestly surprised I didn't die more than I did last night.

@khan, @euggie I don't want to promote a conspiracy theory about act2 keys but I recently just failed at mp8 :/